Showing posts with label internet safety. Show all posts
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Sunday, June 21, 2009

D/s: Mentoring Online and Real Life

What is a Mentor?

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There seems to be an 'online' tendency for subs to approach Dom/mes with a request for 'mentoring'. It is essential that before such a request is made, the sub is clear about:


1)what she requires specifically from mentorship,

2)what the role of a mentor actually is,

3)what qualifications, skills and knowledge the Dom/me approached genuinely has to offer if advice and information is to be relied upon.

A Dom who has a sub who is agreeable to Her Master mentoring others is the ideal situation, if both Dom and sub are skilled they have much to offer a novice.

A Dom without a sub may be somewhat suspect. O/one assumes that is they have much to offer they would have that validated by one who has trusted the Dom in a power exchange situation. In this event it would be helpful to speak to the Doms past submissives.

ROLE OF A MENTOR

The term "Mentor Dom-mentored submissive" is a dynamic where the Dominant is interested in and has input into the submissive's overall (including vanilla) life, emotional wellbeing, interactions with others etc.

The Mentor Dom is a wise and trusted teacher or advisor. Importantly, like a ‘Protector’, a Mentor is Hands OFF.

A Mentor does NOT have cyber with his or her mentoree...that's not his/her role..

"A mentor is a teacher, a counselor, a friend and a disciplinarian at times, but mostly a teacher.

It takes a lot of patience and dedication to take the responsibility of mentoring. Yes, it is a huge responsibility. There is no such thing as part time mentoring. You must always be accessible.

It is hard work and takes a truly patient and knowledgeable person" A mentor can be either Dom or sub

As far as what a mentor is and what is to be expected (and there are expectations), a mentor must be experienced and knowledgeable, in the areas in which advice and information is offerred/provided, trustworthy and brutally honest.

What is spoken between you and your Mentor is confidential.....and should NEVER be spoken about outside of yourselves...

Know your limitations as a mentor. Say you don't know something when you don't know it. And if you don't know. then offer the person you are mentoring a way to find the answers....When you do know something, share it.....don't be shy.....how else can they learn."

Unless you are willing and able to do all the things described above, then you should be a friend. A supportive friend, but don't take on the responsibility of a mentor.

Many people are not cut out for it and can do more harm than good.




In a Little More Detail:



A Mentor wants to know about all the aspects of the submissive's life, and will seek to find ways to support the submissive to grow and thrive as a whole person, not merely within the D/s role they occupy. Eg: the Mentor Dom may devise exercises for the submissive to do aimed at improving their self-esteem, or motivating them positively.

The Mentor Dom may offer advice and in some cases give directions on vanilla relationships the submissive has, or interactions between the submissive and other people, especially if those relationships are causing stress or anxiety to the submissive. He or she may support the submissive undertaking education or training, making career moves, organising their household...any number of things which affect the submissive's overall happiness and wellbeing.

As with all D/s contracts, the Mentor Dom-mentored submissive role can cover - or exclude - anything which the parties wish to be a part of, or exclude from, their D/s dynamic together. For example, a contract may specify that the Dominant controls and guides the submissive on everything except the submissive's role as a parent to his or her children. Or his or her employment. Or any number of other things for which the submissive may need to retain their independent decision-making powers.

The Mentor Disciplinarian - is concerned with providing support to their submissive in the sub’s undertaking of real life tasks, such as the completion of work assignments, or study tasks. The Mentor Disciplinarian may establish deadlines for the completion of steps towards the selected goal, and will monitor the submissive’s progress throughout. A submissive may find themselves unmotivated to do things which he or she needs to get done within their vanilla life, and looks to the Mentor Disciplinarian to be a person who cares about their success or failure, who will provide a kick in the pants if needed, or with whom the submissive feels an obligation or desire to please or gain approval from by achieving the goals that the Dominant has set. (#NZBDSM 1998)


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This has been very helpful... ty for sharing it...~ruhamah~

Wednesday January 31, 2007 - 08:59am (EST) Remove Comment

I was once approached by a PMer with "how do you train your subs?" I had no idea what to tell her as I have not ever done so. So after a small discussion, I explained to her that I was not prepared to be a mentor to anyone, and she took it quite harshly. To this day, I'm unsure why she was angry, but after reading your blog I know more than before that I wasn't prepared to do as she had asked. Thank you very much for your blogs, raven. I greatly enjoy reading and learning from them.

Wednesday January 31, 2007 - 09:37am (EST) Remove Comment

great info blonde..thanks

Wednesday January 31, 2007 - 09:46am (EST) Remove Comment

Great post blonde, as usual. i noticed, nowhere in this post does it say, the submissive should sit on the lap of the Mentor. i'm surprised, as i've seen some submissives stating they have a protector/mentor..and sitting on their lap.

Thanks!!

Wednesday January 31, 2007 - 06:53am (PST) Remove Comment

The Protector and the Mentor roles are both very clearly a hands off positon.. the role is quite different from that of a Dom or Master with which one has a contract for training, or with whom the sub is developing a longer tern relationship. Note these are long term commitments, i am NOT discussing dungeon games, clubs etc.

Thursday February 1, 2007 - 03:03am (EST) Remove Comment

i wrote a blog about my Mentor and what He means to me and Oour roles together back in October…and thought i would share a couple of highlights of how it is for me personally…

i’ve had my Sir Bob in my life now for a year and it’s been wonderful, interesting, scary and probably the most profound growth year of my life…

my Mentor is specific with His teachings…but what He gives me, and supports me with is merely a “guide”…a fundamental guide to how i am expected to behave…He keeps me fulfilled with tasks and direction…but shall only for me until i meet a fitting Master {as previously agreed}.

It is only until then that my Sir will pass on His metaphoric torch {so to speak} to this specific Dominant Man and Master that i will become for, and He in turn then “trains” me to “His” specific needs…oh good Lord i hope i make sense…

He is completely hands off…no lap dancing like i see online at all…Wwe are not completely formal…because well…it’s just not always possible in the real world. i don’t always find myself at His feet every time He sits down…Wwe live and be, and i follow under strict understanding of my position…there is not a lot of the online protocol in what i am learning…because it’s just not heard of in the old school ways... {not with Him, or the community of His likewise Ffriends anyways}

my mother made mention at one time {curious of Oour relationship} that Sir is always watching me…well, that’s His role. He is forever noticing my actions and behaviours…and then in the privacy of our time, He reinforces my good bahaviour, and helps me to understand my not so good bahaviour…but regardless of…He is always there to build my self-esteem...to teach me focus. Most times i have gone above and beyond His expectations and we discuss that as well…

Wwe talk all the time…all the time...and what we talk about is quite profound and imperative to me…

there is so much more i can say but my head is so not thinking so clearly this morning...thanks Blonde...this is a great writing!

Wednesday January 31, 2007 - 10:10am (PST) Remove Comment

Once again, well done my blonde friend!

Now not being one to not put my own two cents worth in: addressing what Rev mentioned above. Some subs (I have noticed) want to take a Mentor because it fulfills a number of things for them. Firstly they get a "pseudo-Master" - I like to call them the Claytons Master (to non Aussies, Claytons is a non-alcoholic mixer that you add to soda-water, kind of like your lemon, lime, and bitters. In this country it was marketed as "the drink you have when you are not having a drink). They get a Dom watching over them and all of the benefits that go with that. In the case of online-only subs they get a Master who has no claim on them but who they can get the food for the majority of their submissive feelings from. They also get the benefit of having the "protection" from being courted by other prospective Doms. The mark of the Mentor is on them, so it looks like they are "taken". A bit like the girl who wears a wedding ring when she is single, or always goes out in the company of gay guys so other guys don't try hitting on her when she is out partying. It's almost a perfect world for them - they get their feelings of submissiveness fed plus it's "hands off boys, I am taken" by proxy.

Of course, (hopefully) most subs don't have a Mentor for this reason, but it's something that Doms should keep in mind. And Rev, it may explain the reason this "sub" got angry with you when she was "rejected" by you. Then again, I would question her true motives if reacted like that. Very suspicious in my book.

Cheers.

Thursday February 1, 2007 - 09:16am (EST) Remove Comment

well said Doms!!! mentor sometimes i suspect i not so much about a desire to learn as a desire to be attached - a public declaration of ' see, i am valued and have someone' ... i hear also that some 'Mentors' use the term for a bit of cyber.. no this would be such a no-no.. 'will you be my mentor' and ' yes i will 'cos i know lotsa things" is not shorthand for wanna cyber baby! Such would demeen the role of true Mentors and places a sordid and incorrect connotation on the true nature of such a relationship.

Further such behaviour would be exploitative and very, very naughty.. *hand on hip..wags finger*

Thursday February 1, 2007 - 01:24pm (EST) Remove Comment

Well done blonde. A good blog. I especially liked the reiteration that a Mentor is HANDS OFF and not a term to satisfy a fantasy.

Friday February 2, 2007 - 12:55am (EST) Remove Comment

..once again, another well~thought out and presented article...thanks for all you do blonde.. *smiles ..and quick hugs*..

Thursday February 1, 2007 - 10:15am (CST) Remove Comment

I had a mentor (Dark Desires) who stated quite clearly to me that he was my mentor not my dominant BUT he let me sit on his lap and he played with me on occasions but never actual rp/cyber per se. I don't think that makes him a bad mentor.

Friday February 2, 2007 - 02:07am (GMT) Remove Comment

I should add that he did teach me a lot too.

Friday February 2, 2007 - 02:07am (GMT) Remove Comment

Hands on *ahem*.. and óther things'on ... is generally more in the 'Trainer"category.. perhaps i will post on that too... just to get the distinction clearer.. it is good that your experience was helpful and positive oh so.. *smiles*

Friday February 2, 2007 - 04:03pm (EST) Remove Comment

have I mentioned how much I appreciate all you teach me.

Friday February 2, 2007 - 11:06am

Safety: When Online Goes Real World: Safe Calls and Cautions

Safecall Service for Offline Meetings: IMPORTANT

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A while back Leatherneck suggested a Lit-based safe call or çhaperone' support for P/people planning on meeting offline. Other suggestions had been to locate different D/s groups in the area of the meeting to arrange a safe venue, perhaps a munch to conduct the first meeting. Here is a Yahoo Group Service that i think may be useful to consider. I have taken the details straight from the group's front page and the URL is included.

Stay Safe!!!


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Safecall
· National Safecall List
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/safecall/


Important Information: Consider Joining This Group to Reduce Risk to Y/yourself & O/others









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What is a safecall? :




Often people are so excited about the prospect of meeting that they forget about safety. It is up to you to take the precautionary steps in maintaining your safety.

It is a contact between two people to let someone know who you are going to be with and where you are going and a code phrase if the person needs help.

Many new relationships are started on the internet. A safecall is one way to help keep a person safe. A safecall consists of several things. It can consist of several phone calls made at a prearranged time to having someone else check out the person you are going to meet's credentials and references. The contacts that will be made between the person who is doing thesafecalling and the person tho is meeting someone for the first or second time varies with each individual. It is not to be relied solely as protection.

Common sense must prevail. If there are any "red flags" when talking to a person online or on the phone, the meeting should be cancelled or delayed until you are comfortable. If you are with them and you begin to feel uneasy, you should end the meeting. Sometimes a person may not be who they claim to be online.

Some red flags to consider:


  • Not wanting to give their information to you
  • Wanting to change locations shortly before the meeting,
  • which could change the information you’ve given to your safecaller
  • Becoming annoyed that you don’t “trust them” and have a safety call set up.

There are many others.


If you are in the process of meeting someone, check out our file section for the state where the meeting will be held. If you can spare a few hours of time to help someone out occasionally, then please add a file to the state folder with your general location and a contact email address. If you know when you are available, please mention days and times.




Let's all help one another stay safe in a chaotic world.
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Thank you for posting this...This is the sort of thing I had in mind right from thevery get go...Isnt it funny how others how migt have felt threatened or the like made it out to be about a bunch of cool kids passing judgements on others. shajes head but often it is a waste of breath to try to explain especially when *makes the sarcastic finger quotes motion* raped women are becoming personally responsible and accountable for their attackers actions. Ohhh well thanks again for postng this *coughs* seems to make sense and maybe just maybe since it came from your page cited as a source idea from yahoo and not from me then there wont be any tiny penis syndrome floating about and folks can actually take up that mantle of *makes the sarcastic finger quotes motion again* personal accountability for the protection and safety of others.

Saturday April 7, 2007 - 06:03am (EDT) Remove Comment

In the past four years there have been aound a half dozen 'first meetings' with ladies I met online. So I know all about the 'Oh, I know him well enough to not worry for my safety' line of thinking. In the end, maybe one of these ladies took precautions anyway near what she ought to have, and even that one was iffy. I'm still on a friendly basis with most of these women, and it gives me total fits when I think of these women placing themselves in that same situation again with unknowns.

*eyes the above post* What exactly do you mean by putting quotes around the word "Raped"? And How and why, exactly, do you suggest women consider themselves responsible for their attackers actions? I'm giving a big benefit of the doubt here, and assuming you mean responsible for their own safety... which in the end is a hard thing to do with a degree of certanty in all situations. And what exactly does anyones tiny penis have to do with women's safety?

Saturday April 7, 2007 - 06:27am (EDT) Remove Comment

*waves* at Hrafnel ....i think Leather was referring to P/people who have discounted His recent ideas for safety in first meetings and in particular, providing safety for subs.. He was referring to some of the comments people had made to Him..(hence the inverted commas.. quotes of others) i suspect You are Both coming from the same direction.

Saturday April 7, 2007 - 09:00pm (EST) Remove Comment

*smiles* Fair enough. I realise I'm coming into this exchange late and there are things I likely missed. And I try to admit when I'm more fiery or aggressive or confrontational than is merited. I guess it's that whole alpha thing. It's a nuisance, really. So my apologies for the tension.

Saturday April 7, 2007 - 07:18am (EDT) Remove Comment

thank you sister for this blog!! i like the idea very much.. i've always told friends that they need to let others know when they are meeting someone new face to face for first time, just for their own safety ... tell them that just because who ever seems so ideal here online that it could all be a ruse for serious trouble.. i personally dont know how some can just talk it up a week then meet, i havent met anyone from online face to face in all my years here yet.. a few i was to meet and they backed out after talking for a long time with them.. heartbreaking to say the least.. i need to know someone well before i can hop into bed or hand the whip so to speak over.. sometimes what you hear or read isnt what you get .. face to face public place .. so many thoughts on this because i am coming upon a first meeting with Master ... will take thoughts private and send to you later this weekend sis ... have a wonderful Holiday with yours my beautiful sister ..~much love, respect and adoration~~warm hugs n kisses~ belle

Saturday April 7, 2007 - 06:29am (CDT) Remove Comment

great post Blonde..
one comment I'd like to make, though. As you are aware, many abusive characteristics aren't shown at first, second or even third meetings. Anyone can be sweet, charming and disarming until the woman is lulled into security. Look at the number of abusive relationships where to the "community" the man is an upstanding all around good guy.

No, I couldn't imagine a first meeting without a "safety" call. I've done it off-line with first dates with men I've met casually..In the end, that didn't protect me from my stalker.

Important to remember to do these things though. Keep the message going

Saturday April 7, 2007 - 07:54am (EDT) Remove Comment

This is a great post. Thank you.

Saturday April 7, 2007 - 09:44am (PDT) Remove Comment

As I ignore a posters obvious attempts to save face, I shall stand by My original convictions, and opinion. Awareness, Knowledge, Common Sense. The first and best line of defense.

I did post a blog and listed My concerns. They were not against remaining safe. I strongly advocate safety, and I do, and shall continue to freely offer up any personal information to those that NEED to be informed of it. I stood, and do continue My stand against a "panel".

As always, raven. A good posting from you when it comes to the lifestyle.

Saturday April 7, 2007 - 12:32pm (CDT) Remove Comment

chuckles I guess it all comes down to actions speak louder than words...is sds willing to step up and offer more that words in helping to protect others should they find themselves in a situation that isnt safe sane or consentual?? Or maybe you would offer "advice" and smart ass comments to her on the best way to save her ass much less saving face?? yeah I bet that would work really well...cuckles shaking head...

Saturday April 7, 2007 - 04:20pm (EDT) Remove Comment

Thanks for posting this, much love for ya

Saturday April 7, 2007 - 03:39pm (CDT) Remove Comment

well the service has been going since March 2003 and seems like a good back up for P/people who may not have someone they feel comfortable asking to do this..

Sunday April 8, 2007 - 09:08pm (EST)

Internet Awareness: A Quick Reminder

A Quick Reminder

Space is big. You just won't believe how vastly, hugely, mind- bogglingly big it is. I mean, you may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist's, but that's just peanuts to space. Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy




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However, O/our little corner of 360 is somewhat smaller...


Sooooo .... *w*.... who is everyone's 'new best friend' ... hmmmm


Does no harm to add someone Y/you don't know ... as long as Y/you keep an eye on them. The overly-familiar person is usually just that ... very familiar.

Felt like Y/you have known them for ages?... Well, Y/you probably have... LOL... if the most recent spate of multiple personalities raised either Y/your eyebrow or Y/your ire there is something Y/you can do to avoid playing an unwilling part is someone's drama or even. their pathology ...

Don't forget.. check the writing style.. and see if 'she' (usually a 'sweet girlie' subbi from seemingly out of nowhere with an unerring aim for a small and specific group of P/people in this huge 360 world... *w* ) is also endorsing the existence of other new ones .... If in doubt, or if it matters to Y/you ... because 'they' do seem to operate in pairs (rofl) ... get the cam and voice up to both and have a three way chat ... NB: i am recommending a simple and polite gal to gal 'hello and wave' here and NOT suggesting that some panting bloke desperate for a bit of free phone sex and a cam willy-wobble with complementary verbal mutual masturbation, make contact with said nbf (ack!)


Remember the behaviour pattern ... the interlinked and overlapping 'life stories' and the stylistic similarities ... if in doubt check with previous blogs here for the MO and etiology of this years all-time nuttiest 360 idjits.


If they are new.... welcome... if they are a bit 'suss'... watch'em ...


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*smiles at raven* thank you, dahling for posting this... *hugsssssssssssss ya!*

Monday September 10, 2007 - 06:13am (CDT) Remove Comment

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lovely post sister. of late i've been running across O/ones with two pages. sometimes three!! .. and they want me to add all of them to my lil world. why can they not put all T/their personalities or whatever onto one page like you and i? do they fear that T/their vanilla F/friends will reject T/them? sheesh .. i am many things but i refuse to have a vanilla page and a lifestyle page and/or goth etc page .. i am all the same and am not embarrassed by my wide variety of likes etc .. but i do understand that there are S/some that just love to play games of the mind/heart, that leave and come back once busted out. or caught out for the scumsucking low-life T/they are. whewww ... i like you sis take note of writing style etc .. that is very hard to maintain two total different styles .. the base core of P/people always shines thru ~wink~ ...
anyways .. it is so lovely to see you out and about, have missed you dearly and do hope you and Yours are doing wonderful .. by your absence or quietness i will take that as yes .. ~smiles~ good for you!! yayyyyyyy!!! happy dance .. have an awesome week, dont cause too much trouble but just enough!! love you dearly sister mine .. warm hugs and a sweet kiss on your cheeks ..

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